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I have been a long-time supporter of concealed carry on campus. The problem is that most people have a misconception of the persons that would be carrying on campus. They panic at the thought of a student having a handgun in their backpack. Every single person that has a concealed carry license has gone through a background check at every level of government. As statistics show, licensed carriers have NEVER been the ones instigating a shooting. The police can only protect if they are present at the time of a crime in progress. The job of police is mostly to investigate AFTER a crime has been committed. They cannot be everywhere at all times. A level headed student , staff, or faculty member should be allowed to protect themselves, their classmates, and their professors.

Socialist/Bolsheviks continue to force childhood well into adulthood resulting in a helpless young society. Children as young a then years old used to bring guns to school and we had no problems.

We didn’t start having problems until the pill pushing psychologist and sociologist became involved in removing personal responsibility from the classrooms of America.

Get rid of all ‘gun’ laws and allow the responsible to protect themselves and those around them and you can send the police back to the station to fill out the paper work for that is the end result of a call to 911.

Pass campus concealed carry. I’m a Va Tech almnus and I don’t want anyone else to ever have to experience this kind of attrocity.

We’ve gotten jaded and grown used to seeing these things on the news. Let me tell you, it’s a punch in the gut when you see the news footage and recognize every single building and landmark in the background.

Some university police forces are good (others are not), but they all are oriented towards maintaining some semblance of order on university grounds. Dealing with rowdy/drunk students, parking enforcement, and crowd control is their day to day concern. IF they can even get there in time, very few of them have any more training than Joe Student to stop someone on a murderous rampage. Your life and those of your fellow students will depend on your ability to take care of yourself when the next psychopath decides to make a name for himself.

CHL holders have more to fear from the general public than the other way around. How many of you average American citizens have been fully finger printed, and had your entire life probed by the state and federal government? Anything more than a traffic ticket will disqualify you from obtaining a CHL.

Please stuff your paranoid fears and start demanding attention being paid to WHY people feel compelled to kill innocent people. It doesn’t matter if they use a gun, a knife, a spoon, or a feather. A person hell bent on killing WILL find a way to do so. Stop blaming the weapon and start focusing on the criminal activity. UNTIL that is done, you’re just spitting in the wind!

When you see signs that read, “Gun Free Zone” you should read them as the criminal sees them. (Criminal Safe Haven)

Think about it!

try it for a couple years – if it works, let the facts support the cause – and if it doesn’t, same holds true.

Brian, you nailed it… thanks.

After reading Shirley Reed’s comments I feel inclined to question if South Texas College is having trouble finding qualified Presidents. To any one with any experience it would not take long to ascertain that a concealed handgun licensed student is much safer than an unlicensed criminal. However, Shirley Reed does not seem to see it that way.

When a person is issued a Concealed Handgun License they do not show off, it caused them to grow up, fast. The responsibility is awesome and I have seen boys grow up so fast it is hard to believe. It will surely cut down on some of the silly things they tend to do while in College. So it would serve to help on two fronts, crime and college pranks.

As we all know “An Armed Society is a Polite Society”.
Not so in GUN FREE ZONES.

These area’s attract serial murderers, because to them it means “OPEN SEASON ZONE”, with little fear of reprisal or swift action………………

Were “I” a college aged adult today, I would Carry Concealed even w/out a License………..as much as I hate to say it.

It’s still better to be “Judged by 12, than carried by 6″.

THE ONES WHO DON’T WANT GUNS CARRIED ON CAMPUS BY ANYONE BUT THE CRIMINALS ARE THE BIG PROBLEM. THOSE FOLKS SHOULD JUST NOT WASTE OUR $ OCCUPYING SPACE ON THE CAMPUSES SUPPORTED BY MY TAX $.

WE HAVE TOO MANY SOCIALIST IDIOTS RUNNING OUR UNIVERSITIES (& “TEACHING” THERE………). THESE ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO FIND JOBS ASSISTING THE ILLEGAL ALIENS DOING LANDSCAPING WORK?

My children attend universities in Texas, and the thought of some burnt-out social misfit carrying a concealed handgun around the campus is rather sobering.

However, most do not understand that is not the licensed owners we need to worry about. With few exceptions, licensed gun owners are responsible and (by default) law abiding citizens. It is the psycho whack-jobs that we need to worry about.

Statistics show that violent crimes have actually dropped in regions where handgun permits are issued. Allowing the campus to be a carry zone is simply employing an additional level of security against the next college tragedy.

“After allowing concealed carry on campus for a combined total of more than eighty semesters, none of these eleven schools have seen a single resulting incident of gun violence (including suicides), a single gun accident, or a single gun theft,” according to the national organization Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.”

SCCC has provided no evidence for that claim whatsoever. The truth is that not 1 of those 11 schools has published data on campus offenses that breaks them down by weapon type, or by whether the offender was a concealed carry permit holder or not.

When asked to provide a source for these claims (the names of the officers they spoke to, the dates, and the notes of their conversations), SCCC has been silent.

Four assaults on a campus in a 4 1/2 month period (none of which resulted in death or severe injury, apparently) is evidence that students and faculty on a campus should be armed? An assault could be something as simple as a fistfight.

The truth is that “gun free zones” in the United States are BY FAR the safest places in the country, with miniscule violent crime and homicide rates.

A 2005 study by the Department of Justice found that 93% of violent crimes that victimize college students occur OFF campus, in the “gun full zones” that SCCC tells us will protect us.

No thanks…

Aleksandr Dumas writes, “My children attend universities in Texas, and the thought of some burnt-out social misfit carrying a concealed handgun around the campus is rather sobering. However, most do not understand that is not the licensed owners we need to worry about. With few exceptions, licensed gun owners are responsible and (by default) law abiding citizens. It is the psycho whack-jobs that we need to worry about.”

Even good people make mistakes, as illustrated by the soldier in Iraq who shot eight people. His gun had been taken away, he was being treated for stress; and he took the gun away from someone who was lawfully armed and shot other lawfully armed individuals. That’s the kind of thing that can go wrong if you start introducing guns into stressful environments. Obviously we need guns to go to war–but we don’t need them in a classroom. We’re not at war.

There is so little crime on campus, you’re nuts to carry a gun there. It’s just asking for something to go wrong. Simple assault, theft happens all the time. No gun necessary. Aggravated assault, homicide, even rape–very rare on college campuses. Especially compared to the surrounding areas. Even the DOJ says the vast majority of violent crimes against students happen off campus.

Being a CHL holder and supporting these bills, I can guarantee you one thing. If this doesn’t pass and I’m ever on campus, get attacked, shot, stabbed, or whatever and survive, I will sue the living daylights out of the University for denying my right to protect myself to the maniacs that live to take advantage of those unable to properly protect themselves.

Stressed Out- You are right you are perfect example of someone that should not have a CHL.
As a college student with a daughter in college I am for CHL in the Universities. The only ones that have them now are the bad guys- you think they would if there was a chance I might?? Not likely.
As an upperclassman Ag major most of us farm/ranch at my University and have shotguns in our trucks for predator control. I think the same (predator control) should be allowed inside the school. No one ever messed with me but anyone that ever followed me knew I was a rancher and my husband was a GSgt in the USMC. Marines vehicles have more stickers telling you who they are than anyone else on Earth!
My University had three sexual assaults, and 2 homicides while I attended- not near any of the Ag students. My daughters choice for schools here in Texas had more crime than mine- less ranchers. Hmmm
Being the wife of a Marine I have been taught many ways to protect myself since we were left alone months at a time while our soldiers were on duty away from home protecting all of you; believe me my entire family can shoot and hit what we aim for.
We both are getting CHL.