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Mary Lou Bruner
4:02 am CST
August 30, 2011


Some Far Left Democrats may be dissatisfied that Obama hasn’t been more liberal, but who are they going to vote for that would be more liberal than Obama? The far left might whine and complain because that is what they do, but in the end, they will vote for Obama. They are about 18% to 20% of the population. Obama can count on their votes.

It is highly unlikely there will be a serious Primary challenger for Barack Obama though many Democratic folks wish Hillary Clinton had been elected. Once during the campaign Hillary said she knew something on Barack Obama that would “Bring him down.” Even though the Clintons did not invite the Obamas to Chelsie’s wedding, it is probably safe to assume that Hillary would not reveal whatever it was she found out about Obama’s past. Since she has accepted a position in Obama’s cabinet, it is highly unlikely that Hillary would run for president unless the party disowned Obama. Although Huntsman, a former Obama appointment, is running for president on the Republican Party, this is very rare.

Radman
9:55 am CST
August 30, 2011


Good points, Mary Lou. The uber-leftists out there don’t have anyone else to support; and I seriously doubt that their level of dissatisfaction with Obama is sufficient to keep them away from the polls on November 6, 2012.

BTW, the grumbling of this truly Marxist wing of the Democrat Party is not new, to wit:

“It seems some folks on the left aren’t happy. Apparently Obama isn’t destroying the country fast enough for them.” GOPUSA Staff, August 10, 2010. The White House is simmering with anger at criticism from liberals who say President Obama is more concerned with deal-making than ideological purity. During an interview with The Hill in his West Wing office, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs blasted liberal naysayers, whom he said would never regard anything the president did as ‘good enough’. “I hear these people saying he’s like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested,” Gibbs said. “I mean, it’s crazy.” (On that point, he is 100% correct!)

ottovonb
10:14 am CST
August 30, 2011


Re: “Who are they going to nominate that’s more liberal than Obama?”

Are you serious?
The reason President Obama has lost support among Democrats is specifically because his behavior in office has been NOT liberal. I know facts tend to confuse Radical Regressives but here are a few to consider:

1. Obama has filled his cabinet with many Republicans – odd for a “liberal” yes?:
Robert Gates / Sec. of Defense
Ray LaHood / Sec. of Transportation
John McHugh / Sec. of the Army
Chuck Hagel / Co-Chair Intelligence Board
Timothy Geithner / Sec. of The Treasury
etc. etc. the list goes on.
This is not what Liberals expected or wanted.

2. Obama has sharply intensified the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan.
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected.

3. Obama has continued the Bush policy of warrantless spying on Americans.
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected.

4. Obama did not propose single-payer govt healthcare as in Europe, Israel, Japan, Canada, etc. He did not even pursue the govt-option plan. Instead he advanced a plan that requires ALL Americans to buy healthcare from private industry as they do now.
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected.

5. Obama continued the Bush policy of bailing out big-businesses (Bush / banks, Obama / car companies)
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected.

6. Obama extended the tax cuts for people making over $250,000.
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected.

7. To help balance the budget Obama offered Rep. Boehner 4 dollars in budget cuts for every dollar in revenue increases. Boehner declined this, and later bragged that in the end he got “98% of what Republicans wanted.”
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected – they strongly support no budget cuts at all.

8. During his campaign against Hillary Clinton Obama said rich people should pay Social Security tax on all their income (like the middle class and poor do) instead of just a fraction of it. But later he dropped that. (the first $106,000 is taxed in full and none after that regardless of whether you make 50,000/yr or 50-million/yr).
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected.

9. Obama said he would close Guantanamo but instead he’s kept it open.
This is not what Liberals wanted or expected.

This list of Obamas distinctly not-liberal behavior is not hear complete, in fact it goes on and on and on…

But no matter, Republican Regressives are such fervent political bigots they insist on exaggerating and lying about Obama so that they can might replace this painfully middle-of-the-road President with someone who is just as much a radically Regressive political bigot as they are. Facts? They’ve got no use for them when they don’t jibe with their political fundamentalisms. Ideological obedience is the most important thing. Ideological purity must be nurtured and maintained above all else. Facts be damned.

Christian Archer
11:52 am CST
August 30, 2011


Ottovonb, welcome back. Where have you been dude? Thanks for the laughable post! I thought you were coming towards the middle but you have take a detour left.

“Who are they going to nominate that’s more liberal than Obama?” Here are four suggestions of people more liberal than Obama that the Leftist Demoncrats can nominate: Ralph Nader, Maxine Waters, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton. How’s that for a bang-up leftist line-up?

“…his behavior in office has been NOT liberal…” So I guess you don’t call trying to take over 1/5 of our economy a leftist/socialist move? Taking over GM surely isn’t a leftist move.

“When President Clinton asked me (Dick Morris) to help him to move to the center to win re-election in 1996, he said “I’ve moved so far to the left that I don’t even recognize myself.” At heart a moderate while Obama is, at core, a leftist, Clinton was alluding to the positions he had to take to keep the support of his liberal House majority. Obama — for whom the further left he drifts the better — has no such qualms but the political impact of his move to the left will be just as fatal for his Congressional majority as it was for Clintons’.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/07/09/the_left_wing_spiral_trap_106238.html

“Obama has filled his cabinet with many Republicans – odd for a “liberal” yes?: Ottovonb, haven’t you learned anything regarding all our posts on Texas Insider. Big deal if Barack Hussein has assigned Republicrats to key positions in his administration. There are liberal Republicrats just like Maxine Waters, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. For example the Republicrats have such liberals as Olympia Snow, Lindsey Graham, Scott Brown, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and John McCain. Remember the acronym RINO?

“… Timothy Geithner / Sec. of The Treasury
etc. etc. the list goes on.” Yep, the list goes on with RINO Republicrats. Laughable. You must not know much about Timothy (New World Order) Geithner. I’m disappointed in your research abilities.

I’m just getting started on refuting your post. I’ll add more later as I get the time. I agree with only about 20% of what you said. Keep posting here, we’ll change you yet. LOL!

Mary Lou Bruner
1:38 pm CST
August 30, 2011


Christian has done an outstanding job of refuting ottovanb’s frail attempt to defend Obama’s liberal administration. Since I was called a confused radical regressive, I have a few things to say. The most entertaining part of ottovanb’s post was the part about Timothy Geithner being a Republican. I suppose a chicken could call himself an eagle if he wanted to but he is still a chicken. We have no doubt about Ottovanb’s pride in his president and the Democratic party. Ottovanb is such a courageous person to post his bold statements under his real name.

L Jones
3:23 pm CST
August 30, 2011


Obama should be deported as as illegal immigrant.

David P
4:43 pm CST
August 30, 2011


Very interesting comments–all of you.

Is it possible that the 28% of Obama voters that want someone else to run on the Democratic ticket could be very moderate or conservative Democrats? Are there any conservative Democrats left in the party? I surely do not know.

brenda
8:43 pm CST
August 30, 2011


I don’t know why the “moderate” democrat(if there are any left anymore) have given up entirely on their party and think they have no voice. I can think of a few people who are still libs, but still have sense enough to know that America is the greatest nation and should not be changed to a socialist nation. Since the democrats place so much importance on race and think they must have a person of color for their President, why don’t they nominate Harold Ford Jr? or Colin Powell. We all know he is not a real Republican. The only name I ever hear mentioned to run against Obama is Hillary.

ottovonb
11:00 pm CST
August 30, 2011


Dear Mary Lou Bruner,

Thank you for raising this issue – it’s an important one.

I post on other sites under my real name but not on this one because frankly it’s dangerous to do so.
I do not post under my real name on this site because Regressive Super Patriots posting on this site have made explicit threats of violence against people who have disagreed with them on these pages.

Specific threats have been made against illegal aliens, Democratic politicians, people who simply disagree with their political opinions and others. Some have even gone so far as to recommend specific calibers of weapon to be used against those they dislike. I am not interested in some coward putting a bullet in the back of my head on my walk home.

Other sites behave more responsibly, they moderate these conversations and exclude such criminal commentary. That’s no exaggeration, threatening physical violence against people is a crime and such threats have appeared repeatedly on this site. I complained to the site managers but they chose not to delete the threatening posts. If you don’t believe it I have the screen captures to prove it – they’ve been provided to the FBI.

So no, unfortunately I do not think it is wise to use my real name on THIS particular site.
I hope you understand.

ottovonb
11:25 pm CST
August 30, 2011


David P,

Good question, but I would counter with another:
Are there any moderates left in the Republican the party?

You raise a very interesting question.

There used to be considerable overlap between the two parties. Given that, Republicans and Democrats used to be able to compromise and meet in the middle without being damned as turncoats by the political fundamentalists within their own parties.

Clearly, that’s no longer possible.

As Democrats like Barack Obama and Republicans like Olympia Snow and other non-fundamentalist-ideologues have discovered, the slightest divergence from the most radical line results in vilification at the hands of partisan Talibanis.

This isn’t good.

It’s making civil political discourse impossible and rendering our country ungovernable. It’s no crime against humanity for each side to horse-trade a little and settle for half of what they want in the interest of the greater good and civic peace. We are a country composed of many different peoples. To succeed it’s important to remember pragmatic compromise is the essence of democracy – In my opinion.

Although I’ve voted for Republicans in the past this is why I find it difficult to do so now. Liberals wanted NO cuts to government services, NO Medicare reform and NO adjustments to Social Security. And despite that President Obama put ALL those items on the table – he offered Medicare reforms, he offered Social Security reforms and he offered 4 dollars in spending cuts for every 1 dollar in new taxes. In more rational times Republicans would have seen that as on helluva a deal.

Clearly this was not a what the Pure Liberals wanted. Clearly this was no pure liberal proposal, clearly it was a compromise position by the President – right?

Mary Lou Bruner
11:32 am CST
August 30, 2011


Clearly some people want us to believe Obama is a moderate Democrat who has angered his Far Left base. The Far Left might be angry that Obama has not spent more money to comply with their socialistic, Progressive ideology, but Obama has done his best for them. No matter how the Democrats stretch the facts to give the impression that Obama is a moderate, we do not believe it. He will NOT get the votes of most moderates.

Obama is taking the USA over a financial cliff at break-neck speed. Though he has spent trillions of dollars to improve the job market, unemployment has grown from 7% when Obama took office to over 9% now (three years later). Obama has made the situation much worse. That is an undeniable FACT.

The people are reminded of Obama’s failed policies every time they buy groceries or fill their cars with gasoline.

It is interesting that in one blog a reader called for civil political discourse — but he/she referred to conservatives as “fervent political bigots” and “radically Regressive political bigots.” The offensive word in these statements is the word ” BIGOT”.

The editor of the TX Insider Newsletter has been very patient allowing one blogger to ramble on and on about how this site has been irresponsible in printing blogs which threaten violence or retribution. I am sure someone is monitoring this site, and anything which might be considered a threat is investigated.

That reminds me of one threat I got a while back. In an e-mail I was told if I continue to investigate ____ ____, I might end up being investigated myself”. Even a statement such as, “Posting your real name on a site like this is dangerous.” might be considered a threat to a paranoid person.

We should all be very careful about the rhetoric we use. Every time I say we must get rid of elected officials who want to raise taxes and destroy the economy, I always try to make it crystal clear that I mean we should throw them out through the election process. It is tragic that anyone would consider violence against someone just because he/she has a different opinion.

The Far Left calls Conservatives the enemy, terrorists, cannibals, partisan Talibanis, racists, bigots and other degrading names. I admit I have used words such as Socialists and Socialism. But these words describe a political ideology just as Capitalism describes a different political ideology. That is different from calling someone a whore, a bigot, or a racist because you disagree with them.

Lucy
11:43 am CST
August 30, 2011


The demo are stupid and they need to get rid of Obama. They will not, because they will be pressured and threatened if they were to try an seek . I do know Obama is destroying this country and needs to be stopped in his tracks. On another note let’s see if his uncle gets deported as he is in this country illegally.

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